Online Satsang of November 21, 2024

[Dhyan Mikael:] Yes, let's get started.

Good evening.

Welcome to Satsang. Nice to have you here.

I am happy that we have Satsang again today. The last few weeks since the last Satsang seem like many months – I don't know why. With the last Satsang in October, we did an experiment. That Satsang was bilingual English / German mixed, and today we are doing a normal Satsang again in German. But I will do an English Satsang at the end of December, on December 28th. So, if you prefer to speak English or if you know people who like to be in Satsang but only speak English, feel free to pass on the info.

And if you are here for the first time today, I would like to briefly explain what is happening here. I lived with my spiritual Master for twenty-five years, I traveled with him in Germany, in Europe and in life. And I've learned a thing or two in that time, and I have now started to simply talk about what I've learned myself and how life can work, once you've figured it out.

I do that in my videos, I also do that here in Satsang, and if you have any questions, then you are welcome to ask me a question about your spiritual path or about your life. You can do this either in the chat, i.e. in writing in the Zoom transmission or in the YouTube transmission. But you can also talk to me directly via Zoom if you like. Yes, that's actually all there is to it. We'll be doing this for an hour and a half, and – looking forward to it. Simone, do you already have a question that you could read out?

[Simone:] Yes, Mikael, I already have two questions.

[Dhyan Mikael:] Oh, how nice, that makes me happy.

Why are men open despite being in a relationship?

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[Simone:] Gabi writes: "Dear Mikael, after grieving for my husband, – now open again for a new love relationship. I met men who were also interested in me, but each had a partner. At first I turned him down, and the last time I met him I realized that he only wanted to have an affair with me. I have two questions about this. Is this also what life wants – that I should get to know men who are currently tied down? And what do you think about the ten commandments, in particular: thou shalt not commit adultery? Thank you and best regards, Gabi."

[Dhyan Mikael:] Thank you, Gabi. Thank you for your question.

Yes, I am glad you brought that up. A lot of women experience what you are describing.

I even made a video about it once, about this story between men and women and why there are so many misunderstandings, and why, especially when it comes to sexual matters, men and women seem to be on a completely different level.

And I don't want to say that the interaction between men and women is limited to this, but it does play a role, and that's why it's good to know about it. And to summarize very briefly, here at this point... The following plays a role: Nature intended that the male parts of mammals, i.e. in our case the men, in the case of humans it's the men, are open to all females – I want to put it quite biologically, quite objectively, like this – while the females naturally are not.

Nature has only one goal: to promote reproduction. That is the basis of life. That is the basis of why we exist at all on a physical level. And this is a very simple, natural matter: a woman ovulates once a month, for humans, and during this time, she is open and looking for a man with whom she can raise and care for this child or her children. There is more to it than just sleeping together.

And the female body is only receptive once a month.

And if the male body was built like this, there would be almost no children. The male body is built in such a way that it is always available. The male body in mammals can always fertilize the female – if the female is available; if it is possible.

And that's something that often confused me a lot in my life as a young man. I have often wondered. I often had the feeling that I was open to all women. Of course, this feeling is purely theoretical, but nevertheless, there was a basic willingness, to be honest. Most men aren't honest about that. But that really confused me. I thought: am I unable to love? Is there something wrong with me? But at some point, I realized that this basic openness is the same for many men.

I think it's because nature has designed it that way, for a very simple reason: so that it works well with reproduction. Of course, this is only a very small aspect of being human and of course only a very small aspect of the interaction between man and woman, but for men, this is a force that you have to know, otherwise, you won't understand yourself. In my experience, women usually tick differently, and that naturally leads to, well, at least, misunderstandings.

When a woman opens up to a man, it's – I don't want to generalize, it's certainly not the case with all women, but it's usually the case – that the woman is then open not only to a physical encounter, but also to being together, to a relationship. And if a man is open to a woman, then that can mean anything: just once or an affair or a relationship, anything.

When a woman opens up to a man, she is usually not only open to a physical encounter, but also to togetherness, to a relationship. And when a man is open to a woman, it can mean anything: just once or an affair or a relationship, anything at all.

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And for you as a woman, it's good to know that this is the case with many men, because if you assume yourself, then you might think: "the man is showing interest in me, he wants a relationship too". In reality, you don't even know what he wants. He probably doesn't know himself either. Most men don't know about this, which is why it's good to take a close look. And I know: it's not that easy. If you like a man and could imagine being with him, then it's not easy to put aside what you would like and take a sober look: What is he really like?

And for you as a woman, it's good to know that this is the case with many men, because if you assume yourself, then you might think: "the man is showing interest in me, he wants a relationship too". In reality, you don't even know what he wants. He probably doesn't know himself either.

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I don't even know if that's even possible.

I know: it's not that easy. If you like a man and could imagine being with him, then it's not easy to put aside what you would like and take a sober look: What is he really like?

I don't even know if that's even possible.

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You asked if that's what life has planned for you. I answered in general terms first, simply because I think that's what you are dealing with: that a lot of men are simply open to a one-night stand or an affair or something like that, but are not at all available for a relationship.

And what helps you is to know exactly what you want.

Maybe you enjoy just having sex with a man. But maybe you are old enough to know that it's not worth it, and that it's only really enjoyable and good for you if you have more than just a fleeting encounter like that. And then it's good to know that so that you can be true to yourself and so that as soon as you realize: "Wait a minute, the other person is different", you can keep your distance. And it doesn't help at all to ask the man what he wants. I advise you not to do that. Don't ask him.

Maybe you enjoy just having sex with a man. But maybe you are old enough to know that it's not worth it, and that it's only really enjoyable and good for you if you have more than just a fleeting encounter like that. And then it's good to know that so that you can be true to yourself.

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If you ask him, you'll get the answer you want to hear, but not how it really is. Most men can't be honest about it, simply because they don't know it themselves. The man meets you and thinks you are totally great and promises you everything because he's totally in love with you at that moment. But two days later, he might be interested in another woman, or he might have a partner and want to stay with her. So: asking questions is useless. Just use your common sense, take a close look, and then you'll know where you stand.

It doesn't help at all to ask the man what he wants. I advise you not to do that. Don't ask him. If you ask him, you'll get the answer you want to hear, but not how it really is. Most men can't be honest about it, simply because they don't know it themselves.

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Listen to your feelings, and then you know where you stand with these guys.

Asking questions is useless. Just use your common sense, take a close look, and then you'll know where you stand. Listen to your feelings, and then you know where you stand with these guys.

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What do the Ten Commandments mean?

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And you are asking what I can say about the Ten Commandments: "thou shalt not commit adultery".

With the Ten Commandments, and indeed with all the commandments, I always have the following feeling: I have the feeling that they weren't actually commandments at all, but descriptions of how to live when you are wise. People who have become wise tell us how best to live. But for that you need a level of maturity, wisdom, life experience, and that comes from making mistakes and doing things differently and trying things out.

With the ten commandments, I have the feeling that they weren't commandments at all, but descriptions of how to live when you are wise. But for that you need a level of maturity, wisdom, life experience, and that comes from making mistakes and doing things differently and trying things out.

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The Ten Commandments are not commandments at all – "thou shalt" or "thou must" – but it's like the quintessence of what an old, wise person speaking to a younger person who is open to hearing it. And he says: "Hey, if you can do that, live like that, then you'll be healthiest, then you'll be holiest, then you'll be happiest."

The Ten Commandments are not commandments at all – "thou shalt" or "thou must" – but it's like the quintessence of what an old, wise person speaking to a younger person who is open to hearing it. And he says: "Hey, if you can do that, live like that, then you'll be healthiest, then you'll be holiest, then you'll be happiest."

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And for me, that also includes this commandment: "Thou shalt not commit adultery". It makes no sense at all to say this to a young man or a young woman who is not ready for it; they are victims of their impulses – let me put it that way. But ten, twenty, thirty years later, they too know what is meant by this commandment.

For me, that is the quintessence of these commandments.

The older I get, the more I see that it is true. I also had times in my life when I found many women really beautiful and attractive, and I am grateful that I experienced this and that I tried it out and that I was true to myself and that I simply was the way as I was back then – because I then learned on my own: it's all nice, but after a while, after trying and trying, I realized that it's nice, but it doesn't make me happy.

And a few years later I realized that whenever I get intimate with a woman, an incredible amount happens that I didn't know at first. I absorb a lot from this other person, and she from me. And then you slowly develop a respect for it and a sensitivity. But that only comes with experience, with your own experience, and a commandment doesn't help at all.

And now I wouldn't get involved with a woman simply because I find her beautiful or because I feel sexual energy, because I know it's not good for me – not because I am following some commandment, but because I am looking after myself. And of course, I also take care of the woman at the same time, but that's not my motivation. But that comes through my own experience, very gradually. So, you can't use this commandment to tell a man: "Listen, what are you doing there?" It works the other way around.

The biggest problem we have in relationships between man and woman – or between man and man or woman and woman, it doesn't matter at all – in relationships between people who have a love relationships, is that we look for happiness in the other partner, and that we want to rely on this person being there for us tomorrow and reliably giving me what I need tomorrow too. And that doesn't exist.

The biggest problem we have with love relationships is that we look for happiness in the other partner, and that we want to rely on this person to be there for us tomorrow and to reliably give me what I need tomorrow as well. And that doesn't exist.

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You can't find this reliability and this happiness in relationships – even if you have a partner who is faithful to you. It has nothing to do with that at all. You have to look for happiness somewhere else – and that's what Satsang is all about. That's why I make videos; that's why I talk about it.

You can't find this reliability and this happiness in relationships – even if you have a partner who is faithful to you. It has nothing to do with that at all. You have to look for happiness somewhere else – and that's what Satsang is all about.

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Thank you for your question. I hope that answered it. If it didn't, please get back to me. Thank you, Gabi. Thank you.

Envy is not the problem

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[Simone:] Then I'll read out the next question. It comes from Maria.

[Dhyan Mikael:] Hello Maria, good evening. Nice to have you here.

[Simone:] "Dear Mikael, how can I deal with envy? Can you give me a tip? Thank you."

[Dhyan Mikael:] Well... You may have heard the saying that you should live in the moment – in other words, only look at what is here now, not at what once was and not at what may one day be, but only at what is here right now, with you, in your life. If you are in the past, then you are in your thoughts. The past only exists in your thoughts.

When you are in the future, you are in thought. The future only exists in the thoughts. If you are not in thought, then you are here, in this moment, and then you have what you have. And envy has something to do with thoughts. You see someone else's life and think: if I had it like that, I would be better off.

That's not true, of course, but that's how we think.

Past only exists in your thoughts. Future only exists in your thoughts. If you are not in your thoughts, then you are here, in this moment. Envy has to do with thoughts. You see someone else's life and think: I would be better off like that. That's not true, of course, but that's how we think.

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And it's really just this one point that we have to take care of in this life – just this one point – that decides between being happy and being unhappy: "Do I believe my thoughts that tell me all sorts of things, or do I live in the moment and be grateful and enjoy what's here?"

It really is just this one point we have to take care of in this life that decides between being happy and being unhappy: "Do I believe my thoughts that tell me all sorts of things, or do I live in the moment and be grateful and enjoy what's here?"

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It's quite funny... When you are envious, you are looking at others. You are not looking at your life – your life is beautiful, but you are not looking there. You only look out there at the others. Most people only live in their thoughts. Some are envious, others dream about something, others are unhappy because they don't agree with what's happening in their lives.

When you are envious, you are looking at others. You are not looking at your life – your life is beautiful, but you are not looking there. You only look out there at the others.

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But what they all have in common is that they live in their thoughts and believe that things could be different; that they should be different; that things would be better if they were different. And very few people have ever looked at what their life is really like and what they themselves are really like. And I recommend that you do.

Most people only live in their thoughts. Some are envious, others dream about something, others are unhappy because they are not happy with their lives. Very few people have ever looked at what their life is really like and what they themselves are really like. And that's what I recommend you do.

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It's not just about this envy; envy is just the symptom. The envy is the symptom of you living in thoughts, and that's what should really be taken care of. The envy is not bad, but the living in thoughts, that's not good for your life. It's not good for your happiness and you can stop it. You can learn not to live in your thoughts. You can learn to just be here.

Envy is the symptom of you living in your thoughts, and that's what should be taken care of. Envy is not bad, but living in your thoughts is not good for your life and for your happiness, and you can stop that. You can learn not to live in your thoughts. You can learn to just be here.

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Envy is not at all about what you see. It's not about the question: "Should I have what my neighbor has?" Even if you had that, a day later you'd be envious of something else. It's really a basic attitude of your own being: do I live in desires, do I live in thoughts – or do I just live here, in the moment?

Envy is not at all about what you see there. It's not about the question: "Should I have what my neighbor has?" Even if you had that, you'd be envious of something else a day later. It's really a basic attitude of your own being: do I live in desires, do I live in thoughts – or do I just live here, in the moment?

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I said a sentence in my last video: There are people who are dissatisfied.

And if you are such a person who is dissatisfied, then you will always find reasons why you are dissatisfied. You are not dissatisfied because you lack something. You are dissatisfied because that is your basic nature, so to speak. And if that is the case, then you will always find reasons somewhere why you are dissatisfied. And there are people who are satisfied – not so many; there are few, but there are people who are satisfied.

There are people who are dissatisfied. And if you are such a person who is dissatisfied, then you will always find reasons why you are dissatisfied. You are not dissatisfied because you lack something. You are dissatisfied because that is your basic nature, so to speak.

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And these people who are content find reasons everywhere why they should be content, because their basic attitude is different inside.

And there are people who are satisfied – not so many; there are few, but there are people who are satisfied. And these people who are content find reasons everywhere why they should be content, because their basic attitude is different inside.

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And that's the point: how do you want to be? Do you want to look into the world and look into your life and see all the things you don't have and see all the things that are wrong? If that's what you want, you will always find reasons why it's like that and proof of why it's like that.

But if you prefer to be the other kind of person, then you will discover a life that is simply amazing. And you discover that when you let your thoughts be. That's what meditation is all about. That's what I talk about in all my videos. Yes, that is what I can say about envy, very briefly and succinctly. Thank you, Maria.

This is what it's all about: how do you want to be? Do you want to look into the world and see everything that is wrong? Then you'll find evidence of why it's like that. But if you prefer to be the other kind of person, you will discover a life that is simply amazing. You'll discover that when you let go of your thoughts. That's what meditation is all about.

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What is the meaning of life?

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[Simone:] I have more questions, Mikael.

[Dhyan Mikael:] Ah, how nice, that makes me happy.

[Simone:] Martina has the following question. "Good evening, dear Mikael. For a while now, I've lost sight of the meaning of my life. The events in my life are coming thick and fast, and I am gripped by a deep exhaustion. I often feel dull, tired and without drive. I keep asking myself why I am actually here. Can you please say something about the meaning of life? Thank you very much. Martina."

[Dhyan Mikael:] Thank you, Martina. Thank you for your question. I am happy that you are here.

Yes, that's my favorite thing to talk about: the meaning of life.

I'd like to say a few words about what you've just said about how you are feeling right now: that you are exhausted and have no energy left. And that's a good thing! You say that you have lost sight of the meaning of life, and now life is helping you to stop. It turns off the energy tap, and you become slower and slower, and that's a good thing. I often feel the same way. You can hear that I've got a bad cold at the moment.

I've been in bed all day today and yesterday too, and I love this time. I have that twice a year. In spring and fall I have a really bad flu, and at two other times of the year I usually have another one. And I love this time when life takes away any possibility of doing anything – except Satsang. Somehow, Satsang always is possible, and meditating too, that's quite funny. But nothing else works, and that is so soothing.

It brings me back to myself so much. I am otherwise a very active person. I am busy all day editing videos or... There's so much involved. There's so much work involved in the videos and the few things I do, and I am busy all the time and I love it. But those times when I can't do anything, those are the best. But I usually don't do it by myself, except when I am meditating or going for a walk.

And when life forces me to do it, like now, ah, that's wonderful.

But back to your actual question: what is the meaning of life? I mean... you live this life; you make an effort to do everything right. But then at some point you get to an age where you realize... And it doesn't matter whether you are successful or not. Some people are thirty or forty or fifty years old and realize: "Everything I try, nothing works. It can't be that this is the meaning of life."

Other people are so successful, but realize at the same age: "Wait a minute, I am successful everywhere, but I am still not happy because of it. There's something wrong here." At some point in life, you reach a point where you realize: "Wait a minute, what's going on here? Why am I here?" Everyone knows somewhere inside that it can't be that the whole thing doesn't make sense. That's quite funny. Somehow everyone knows that – but only very few people know what the point actually is.

At some point in life, you reach a point where you realize: "Wait a minute, what's going on here? Why am I here?" Everyone knows somewhere inside that it can't be that the whole thing doesn't make sense. That's quite funny. Somehow everyone knows that – but only very few people know what the point actually is.

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And that's really exciting.

We grow up as human children, and all we learn to do is look outwards; only outwards. We learn things, we learn a trade, we do things, we seek our happiness out there, in life, with a partner, in careers, in life. We try to do everything right and get along well with our fellow human beings.

And then we get old, and then we die. It's funny, isn't it? We grow up, and our entire focus is only on the outside, on this body and what this body does.

And if that was all there was to it, then it doesn't make sense. Everyone knows: he will die, she will die – sooner or later. And if you know that and you think, "I am this body; I am what I am doing here", then, none of this makes sense.

And that's where some people get to in their lives, and that's a good point – when you realize, "Wait a minute, I am missing something here. This can't be."

And if that were all there was to it, then it doesn't make sense. Everyone knows that they will die – sooner or later. And if you think, "I am this body; I am what I am doing here", then none of this makes sense. And that's a good point – when you realize, "Wait a minute, I am missing something here. This can't be."

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Jesus... I like talking about Jesus so much because Jesus is a Guru, a saint, who has discovered the secret of life – like many other Gurus, only he is from our culture. We are familiar with his language and his images and his stories, and that's why I like to speak with his words, because we are simply familiar with them. And Jesus spoke about eternity. He talked about how there is no time in the Father's Kingdom.

He spoke of a part of life that has nothing at all to do with the coming and going of this body. But he spoke with words, with a language, that we do not understand today. People were completely different back then. We have words and vocabulary and a way of seeing life that was very different back then. For example, the word "thought" didn't exist back then. And I talk in many of my videos about the fact that we are not really this body at all. Jesus couldn't have told people that back then.

They wouldn't have known what he was talking about. If someone said something like that, no one would have understood. He had to speak indirectly. He had to point out the truth quite indirectly, because otherwise, nobody would have understood it at the time. All the people he spoke to had no education at all when it came to spiritual matters. But we are much more advanced today. We have gained so much awareness that we can perceive our own thoughts and also talk about them.

Jesus spoke about eternity. He talked about how there is no time in the Father's Kingdom. He spoke of a part of life that has nothing at all to do with the coming and going of this body. But he spoke with words, with a language, that we do not understand today.

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Jesus could not talk about thoughts. He spoke of the devil. He said: "the devil told me". This is the voice up there that you also know. Yes, and Jesus was now talking about this life, which has nothing to do with the earthly and the temporal. And today... the Guru I am with today, Swamiji, says exactly the same thing, but in today's words.

And he says, "You are not this body. You are a soul," he says. You are that which is timeless. Swamiji says: the soul is what was before the body was born. And: the soul is that which is still here when this body has long since died. That is you, but you know nothing about it. And the point of this life, this earthly life, is to discover that – while you are alive.

We come into this life to discover, while we think we are a body, who we really are. It is as if this life is a living mirror that allows us to experience who we really are. And we can only do this by first forgetting ourselves and then finding ourselves again. That's what this life is for.

We come into this life to discover, while we think we are a body, who we really are. It is as if this life is a living mirror that allows us to experience who we really are. And we can only do this by first forgetting ourselves and then finding ourselves again. That's what this life is for.

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We now live in a time when this has become possible for us normal people who live in society, in our normal lives, with our jobs, with our families, with our friends. In the past, only a very, very, very few could do this, and they had to leave social life because it was not possible to discover this among other people. But today it is possible. It's totally amazing. We live in amazing times. That's why there is now the Samarpan Meditation, which I talk about all the time in my videos.

It's been around for many, many hundreds of years in the Himalayas, but now the time is ripe for normal people, like you, like me, in society, to discover what you are asking: what is this life for? What is it all for? And then you start to meditate, just half an hour every morning, that's all it takes, and otherwise you just carry on living your life. And very gradually you begin to experience your life with more and more awareness.

And as you live your life with this growing awareness, you gradually discover and experience what this is really about and who you really are. Gradually you become the soul, Swamiji says. You are of course already the soul, but you have no idea about it. You don't experience it. You are this body and you have these thoughts, and it's all very unpleasant. But very gradually you figure it out. You just experience it, very gradually, more and more. It's a gradual process, a natural process, a slow process. And that's what we are here for. That's what this life is for.

That's what Jesus meant back then when he said: "Turn back!" We are always looking outside, I just said. From childhood, we learn to look outside. And then, someone like Jesus or someone like Buddha or someone like Swamiji comes along and says: "Turn back!" And they mean it literally: turn inwards. They don't mean, don't go this way, but that way, but: go inwards – an inside, of which you know nothing.

You don't know at all where it is, this inside, but you learn it very gradually when you meditate. That is the meaning of life. I've tried to keep it short... And that's exciting. And when you realize that this is what it's all about – it has energy. This is a joy to discover. That's the best thing in life. Nothing else is more interesting to me.

From childhood, we learn to look outside. And then someone like Jesus comes along and says: "Turn back!" And he means it literally: turn inwards – an inside that you know nothing about. You don't know where this inside is supposed to be, but you gradually learn that when you meditate. That's the meaning of life.

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Thank you, Martina.

Why conversations are often so difficult

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[Simone:] Mikael, here's a question from Thomas.

[Dhyan Mikael:] Hello Thomas. I am happy you are here.

[Simone:] "Dear Mikael, thank you for giving Satsang. I have a question about conversations with other people. I notice that when I am listening to a conversation, I become very distant from myself and am almost drawn outwards. And I also often don't know what I should say or answer. Can you say something about that? Thank you."

[Dhyan Mikael:] Oh, thank you. What a lovely question. Yes, conversations are really tough.

It's like this, you probably know it... It's often like this: you are having a conversation, and you feel like you are on autopilot. Something happens automatically and you tell things and say things that you don't actually want to say, as if it's all remote-controlled. It's exactly as you say: if you don't really pay attention and aren't really aware, then you distance yourself from yourself. You say things that you don't really want to say.

Yes, I can give you two tips. One is: pay very close attention to what's happening in the conversation.

And by that, I mean the following... If I want to talk to someone because I have something to say, that's one thing. Then I go up to someone and say: "Hello, listen, here's what I want to tell you about myself", or: "I want to give you some information", whatever. No problem. And if someone comes to me in this way, then it's actually relatively easy for me. Someone comes and wants to tell me something about themselves and then I can realize: do I want to hear this or not?

But most conversations aren't like that. Most conversations are like this: someone comes to me and wants something from me but doesn't say it. Someone wants me to do something, or someone wants me to give them some information. Someone wants me to tell them something about myself. And immediately I feel under pressure; immediately I feel uncomfortable.

Most conversations are like this: someone comes to me and wants something from me but doesn't say it. Someone wants me to do something or give them some information. Someone wants me to tell them something about myself. And I immediately feel under pressure; I immediately feel uncomfortable.

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And that's really exciting to look at: what's actually happening in the conversation? How do I feel? Sometimes you feel really comfortable and you enjoy it, but sometimes you don't feel comfortable at all, you feel somehow uncomfortable and under pressure – and you just have to notice that. You don't even have to know what you are going to do with it. Simply being aware of this is crucial. How you then deal with it is the second step, but that is relatively easy. But it's the perception that's helpful.

Many people come up to you and ask you things, and then you feel like you have to say something in response. But that's not true at all. You never have to say anything. You can just keep your mouth shut.

Many people come up to you and ask you things, and then you feel like you have to say something in response. But that's not true at all. You never have to say anything. You can just keep your mouth shut.

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I once had a job many, many years ago, when I was an editor for a magazine. And this magazine lived from advertisements, just like all magazines and newspapers. And the people who sold these ads were trained. And the strategy that they learned was to ask the customer questions, because whoever asks questions rules the conversation, because most people are not able to defend themselves against questions.

Most people, when they are asked something, answer. They don't have the freedom to even decide: do I want to say this, or do I not want to say this? What's going on here anyway? And you can observe this in yourself too.

Whoever asks questions rules the conversation, because most people are not in a position to defend themselves against questions. Most people answer when they are asked something. They don't have the freedom to decide: do I want to say this, or don't I want to say that? What's going on here anyway?

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Someone comes along, asks you a question and you immediately feel obliged to answer something appropriate. I don't do that anymore. If someone asks me something about a topic I don't want to say anything about, I say: "if I want to say something about it, I'll come to you." And that's the truth.

Someone comes along, asks you a question and you immediately feel obliged to answer something appropriate. I don't do that anymore. If someone asks me something about a topic I don't want to say anything about, I say: "if I want to say something about it, I'll come to you."

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Of course, I'm not talking about those trivial questions like "what time is it" or "do you fancy eating spaghetti today". I mean those conversations that become uncomfortable; where you feel under pressure or, as you say: where you distance yourself from yourself.

I now have the feeling that conversations with most people are a real minefield where you have to be very careful where you step. And that really is the case. People don't mean any harm. They usually don't even know that they are doing this. They just talk the way they've been taught. But if you are a person like you, who realizes that something is happening that isn't good for you, it's a really exciting thing to discover.

Yes, and I just told you that the crucial thing in the whole story is to notice what is happening; to notice how you feel in every moment. And the second thing I can tell you: train this ability to perceive. Meditate. When you meditate – the Samarpan Meditation that I always tell about... It's like you are strengthening your consciousness. You become quieter and more aware. You slowly become more and more aware, and that is the one great help. And then you are in a conversation and you realize: "Wait a minute, that doesn't suit me at all."

Train this ability to perceive. Meditate. When you meditate, it is as if you are strengthening your consciousness. You become quieter and more aware. You slowly perceive more and more, and that's the one big help.

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And as I said, you may not know how to react specifically, but that usually comes naturally – if you realize how you feel in the first place. If you realize that, then the rest is actually easy. That's when you get creative somehow. It's also different for everyone. It won't help you at all if I tell you how I handle it, because everyone is different. But perception is helpful for everyone, and I recommend that you meditate. It makes you quieter, it makes you more perceptive, and then what you experience in conversations will change very, very quickly.

It won't help you if I tell you how I do it, because everyone is different. But awareness is helpful for everyone, and that's what I recommend: meditate. This will make you quieter and more perceptive, and then what you experience in conversations will change quickly.

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Thank you, Thomas.

It's a great topic. If you have another question here, feel free to ask again, here now, or email me.

[Simone:] Mikael, very short feedback from Gabi. "Your answers help me. Thank you very much."

[Dhyan Mikael:] Thank you, Gabi. Thanks for the feedback. When I say something about a question, I have no idea if what I say is helpful in any way. I am glad to hear it. Thank you.

Should I, or shouldn't I?

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[Simone:] Then I have a question from Linus.

[Dhyan Mikael:] Hello Linus, welcome.

[Simone:] "Anxiety has been coming up here incredibly strongly since yesterday, without a concrete trigger. But the head always rushes to the next thing that comes up and circles around it. It's very challenging to be present with this, to experience this body. Somehow, the mind still gets me a bit with this 'Should I, or shouldn't I?' Maybe you can tell me something about that. Thank you for sharing."

[Dhyan Mikael:] What is it that you should or shouldn't do? That would interest me. You put it in a very general way, but I have a feeling you are talking about something very specific, and sometimes it's not bad to know what it's actually about. And if you like, you can add that so that Simone can tell me.

Why are you taking us outside?

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[Simone:] Should I read out the next question in the meantime?

[Dhyan Mikael:] Yes, read me another question, and if Linus hasn't said anything by then, I'll answer in general. Thank you.

[Simone:] Ferdi...

[Dhyan Mikael:] Hello, Ferdi.

[Simone:] ...writes: "Dear Mikael, it is all in us. It is all here. And yet you talk about it and lead us outwards. Why? Shouldn't everyone just be? There's nothing to say about it."

[Dhyan Mikael:] Well, you know... If what you are saying was really true, then you wouldn't be here in Satsang. Then you would be sitting somewhere and resting in your being and just be happy, and nothing could drag you in front of a computer screen. It's like this: as long as I am in this body, I have some kind of task. What is it? I don't know. It changes all the time.

My real task is to discover who I really am, and when I have discovered that, then I am satisfied; then I know: everything is in me, just as you say it is. But I still don't sit around in some corner. Then I do what I have energy for – not because it makes me happy, but simply because I have energy. In my case, it's because maybe other people who don't yet know what I am talking about from their own experience should hear it and it might help them.

Swamiji, my Guru, says: when you have reached the highest, then there is still one task to be done before you are truly liberated. And that is to give away everything you have learned, everything you know, to pass it on, to give it away so that you have nothing left and are completely empty. I like that. That's why Jesus traveled through the lands, that's why Swamiji travels through the world.

Realizing who you really are doesn't mean that then, you sit quietly in a corner somewhere for the rest of your life, until this body drops dead. It doesn't mean that at all. But if that's what you want, you can of course do it. There's nothing wrong with that. If that's your life, then live that way. It's just different for me.

And it's not that I want to lead you outside, but we live in these bodies, and as long as we're not yet completely holy and I am sitting on one mountain and you are sitting on the other a hundred kilometers away and we somehow meet through the ether, we'll just talk to each other. It's a very practical matter. I just hope that what I say, while I rest in myself as best I can, stimulates you to go more inwards too, and then I am happy. And if that's not the case, if I really lead you outwards, then you should switch off and not watch. Then I am not helpful to you.

Should I, or shouldn't I? The answer

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Have you heard anything else from Linus? Yes, no problem. So, then I would now like to answer Linus' question about fear and that the mind makes life difficult for him with this question "should he or shouldn't he". I know this quite well myself.

You have energy for something; and you know exactly: it's up now. Maybe you know exactly that you have to do it now, you have the energy for it. But everything in you says: "that's stupid, that's not good, you shouldn't do that under any circumstances, it'll go wrong, it's wrong."

And then you think: "Should I really do this now, or should I not do it?" Or it's the other way around. You think you should do something, but you don't want to, and you don't have the energy for it, but your thoughts tell you: "But you have to", or "You should do that". But in both cases, you are in a split, because your energy is saying one thing and your thoughts are saying something else.

And I can tell you how I do that, and I learned that from my spiritual Master Soham. He taught me to be true to the moment and not to the thoughts. And being true to the moment means, quite practically, doing that for which energy is here right now. That's when you simply go with the energy that's here in your life right now – wherever it takes you without you putting up much of a fight and simply going along with it. That's what he taught me back then. And I did that, and it led me into the most impossible situations.

Being true to the moment means, practically: doing what you have the energy for. That's what Soham taught me back then, and that's what I did, and it led me into the most impossible situations. I did things where my head said: "that's not possible", but it was always great. Always.

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I did things where my head said: "you can't do that, you can't do that", but it was always great. Always. And sometimes, the things I thought I wanted to do didn't work out, even though I was ready. And then I knew: "Ah, life has intervened just now. I guess it wasn't meant to be after all." So, it's quite simple. You can just follow your energy, and if it's really meant to happen, then it will happen, and then you'll either have fun, or you'll learn something from it, or both. Most of the time, it's both. And if it's really not a good idea, then it's not going to happen.

So, it's quite simple. You can just follow your energy, and if it's really meant to happen, then it will happen, and then you'll either have fun, or you'll learn something from it, or both. Most of the time, it's both. And if it's really not a good idea, then it's not going to happen.

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And when I first heard this from my spiritual Master, when he said, "Live like this: don't think about it. Be true to your energy"... In the beginning, it really took courage for me because I believed my thoughts. I thought, something terrible is about to happen if I do that. But that never happened.

When I first heard from my spiritual Master, "Live like this: don't think about it. Be true to your energy", it really took courage at first because I believed my thoughts. I thought something terrible would happen if I did that. But that never happened.

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There's something Ramana Maharshi said, this great Indian saint. He said: "That which is meant to happen will happen, no matter how much you resist it. That, which is not meant to happen, will not happen, no matter how hard you try."

And that reassures me immensely, and I live by it. It liberates me.

I know I don't need to be smart or good, and I can't anyway. I can't be smarter than I am. I can't be better or wiser than I am. But what I can do – this I am capable of: I can feel my energy. I can feel what I would like to do now, where my strength, where my joy is going. I can feel that. And I can feel where something is holding me back, where I realize, "No, I don't want to do that, no way, I am afraid of that, it's not good, I am not interested in that." I can feel that too. And then I can respect that.

Ramana Maharshi said, "That which is meant to happen will happen, no matter how hard you fight it. That which is not meant to happen will not happen, no matter how hard you try." And that reassures me, and I live by that. It sets me free. I know I don't need to be smart or good, and I can't anyway.

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That much I can do.

I can't be smarter, better or wiser than I am. But I can feel my energy: feel where my strength and my joy are going. And where something holds me back, where I realize, "No, I don't want that, no way", I can feel that too. I can respect that. That much I can do.

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And I rely on the fact that if it's meant to happen, even though I don't want it, it will happen, and I've experienced that countless times. And if it's not meant to happen, even though I want it to, even though I want to try it, then it won't happen. I can just be the way I am. I have experienced it again and again, again and again. I want to give an example. Sometimes it's quite mundane things where you learn how life really ticks; everyday things. Here in the family, in the household, there's something to do somewhere and I think, "But I don't want to do that now.

I don't feel like doing it now, the others can do it for once." I am determined: "I am not going to do that now; I don't feel like it". And then I do other things, and ten minutes later I go there and do it anyway, as a matter of course, because I suddenly know: "Listen, what kind of idiot are you? You just do that now, it's up", and then I enjoy it. Suddenly, my energy changes, and suddenly, it's possible for me. It's not that I then do something that I don't want to do. Suddenly, something in me has changed. I was true to myself.

I said, "No, I don't want to do that", and then it changed because it was still meant to be – and then I even had fun doing it. And I've experienced that again and again every day. And once you've experienced that often enough, you are no longer so afraid of it. What you experience is perhaps this feeling: "I have to know what to do. I have to do it right. I can't take the wrong decision now." Take the wrong decision! Do it wrong. That's my advice to you.

I rely on this: if it is meant to happen, even though I don't want it to, then it will happen, and I have experienced this countless times. And if it's not supposed to happen, even though I want it to, then it won't happen. I can just be the way I am. I have experienced it again and again, again and again.

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I did it the same way. I still do it today. Thank you, Linus.

What you experience is perhaps this feeling: "I have to know what to do. I have to do it right. I can't take the wrong decision now."

Take the wrong decision! Do it wrong. That's my advice to you. I did it the same way.

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You don't have to do it alone

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[Simone:] I now have a question from John that I'd like to read out.

[Dhyan Mikael:] Hello, John. Nice to have you here. I am delighted.

[Simone:] Hello dear Dhyan. I have been suffering from an anxiety disorder for fifteen years due to a traumatic experience. How can I overcome this and trust my body more? I have been very restless inside for weeks and sleep very badly. My nervous system is dysregulated. My hands and feet are sweating and today I also had a tremor all over my body, a kind of panic attack – but I don't have a cold like you do – because I am just worried at the moment.

My company is on the verge of bankruptcy with twenty employees – everything I've worked so hard for over the last few years. I have accumulated debts, including private debts, with the tax office due to a tax consultant who gave me the wrong advice. I just can't find peace and relaxation anymore. I would like to let go of everything that is weighing me down and just get well. I am thinking about going to hospital because of the inner turmoil, which I don't really want to do. They'll fill me up with medication again, which I don't really want.

I can't get rid of the fear of death that has been bothering me for so long. All I want is a normal, if possible free and carefree life, as far as that is realistic. I love you and thank you for your time, strength, energy and wisdom that you give us. I sincerely wish you a speedy recovery. Is the true self our soul or spirit? The difference between spirit and soul is still not quite clear to me. If the spirit is the mind and the soul is our true self, then I have just answered the question myself. Best regards, John."

[Dhyan Mikael:] Thank you, John.

So, three things I'd like to say to you. First of all... You know, there's nothing at all wrong with you getting help. I understand that you don't want to go to the hospital. The people at the hospital, they are usually responsible for getting you help quickly, and then they give you medication. But if you are actually suffering from an anxiety disorder and have had a traumatic experience that is affecting you so massively today, then there is help for you. There are professionals who know exactly how to deal with something like this, to help you.

And if you want that, if you have the energy for it, then do it. You know, Satsang doesn't mean that nothing else in the world is helpful. There is so much that is helpful. I try things out all the time, simply because I am always curious about what my body... For me, it's not so much the psyche, I've been over that for many years now, but there are so many things that are helpful and supportive for this body, whether on a psychological or emotional level or on a purely physical level. There is so much you can try out and so much you can explore.

That's a great thing. And if you need help and you have the impulse to turn to someone, for example, or to do something specific, then do it. You don't need to think that this is unspiritual or not good. Just make sure that it is in harmony with yourself. It's not about taking medication now to suppress the feelings you have. Sometimes this is also helpful in the transition phase, as part of therapy. But I am not an expert on this at all. I am not an expert. I have no idea.

You don't need to know how to do it

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But you don't have to do it alone. Yes, and on your other topic, with your professional situation, in your financial situation... I can tell you how I do it.

I am not in a situation like you. I don't have any debts, but I don't have any money either. There's always just enough coming in to cover my needs. I try to make the right decisions and manage reasonably well, but I can't say I am an expert at it. And I keep saying, "God, I am ready for anything. I am willing to do whatever it takes so that I can do what you want me to do."

No matter on what level... some things are not spiritual at all. It has nothing to do with me giving Satsang or making videos. That applies to everything in life. And then I say: "And, God, you have to help me with this. I can't do it. You have to do it. I am here, use me, but I don't know how to do it." And that relieves me.

I keep saying, "God, I am ready for anything. I am willing to do whatever it takes." And then I say, "And, God, you have to help me do it. I can't do it. You have to do it. I am there, use me, but I don't know how to do it." And that relieves me.

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I like to work, I work a lot, and I love to do it. But what I don't like and what I can't do is to have life under control; to always know what's next; to do everything right. I can't do any of that. Someone else has to show me that. Either God shows me, through my energy, or God sends me someone, who in turn show me how to do something right. But I can't.

I like to work, I work a lot, but what I can't do is to have life under control; to know what's right now; to do everything right. I can't do any of that. Someone else has to show me that. Either God shows me, through my energy, or God sends people to show me how to do it right.

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But this surrendering, this, "okay, God, I am ready for anything. I am willing to work hard. I am willing to give it all away. I am also willing to die if that's what you really want – your choice. I can't decide" – that's the one relief that helps me.

This surrendering, this, "okay, God, I am ready for anything. I am willing to work hard. I am willing to give it all away. I am also willing to die if that's what you really want – your choice. I can't decide" – that's the one relief that helps me.

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Like Ramana Maharshi, who I just mentioned... He says: "Hey! Everything will happen exactly the way it's supposed to happen", and that's true. That's my experience. But to rely on that is to say, "Okay, I am here. I'll do what you want, life." Just like Jesus said: "Your will be done. Tell me what to do." And then, be open to whatever happens. To everything.

Ramana Maharshi says, "Hey! Everything will happen exactly the way it's supposed to happen," and that's true. That is my experience. But to rely on that is to say, "I'll do what you want, life." Just like Jesus said, "Your will be done. Tell me what to do." And then, be open to whatever happens. To everything.

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My experience with myself is that the biggest obstacle in all of these things is myself. When I am afraid, when I live in the mind, when I give attention to my thoughts, then I spend most of my energy and, of course, most of my time up there (in the mind), and then, nothing works. But if I step out of this and let go and really manage to go through life like this – let go – then I am relieved, and then the energy flows. Then, I am able to do all kinds of things, twenty or thirty times more than usual. That's really helpful.

If I am afraid, if I live in the mind and pay attention to my thoughts, then I use up most of my energy and time in the mind, and then, nothing works. But if I step out of it and let go and manage to go through life like this, then I am relieved, and the energy flows.

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Surrender – turning towards life

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I seem to remember that you wrote to me that you do the Samarpan Meditation, but I am not quite sure.

And that's where you learn it. It takes a while. You don't learn it overnight. We've learned all our lives, "I have to do it right, I have to have life under control", and now learning to let go takes a few days. But with Samarpan Meditation – Samarpan means surrender, letting go – you learn that, very gradually, and then, life becomes easier.

And I am just saying that, but I really mean it. I really mean that with every word. That's my own experience.

We've learned all our lives, "I have to do it right, I have to have life under control", and now to learn to let go, that takes a few days. Samarpan Meditation teaches you that, and then, life becomes easier. And I say it like that, but I really mean it with every word. That's my own experience.

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What doesn't help is running away from life. Surrender is exactly the opposite – many people misunderstand this. Surrender is not running away from life, but on the contrary: you stand there and face your life, the whole mess that you see in front of you, and you have no idea what to do.

And you stand there – I am talking about your inner state – and say: "Okay, that's how it is. I don't know what to do, I am ready for anything. I want to take care of everything. Here I am. Now I just need someone to tell me what to do." And so you pray, every morning, after meditation. And then you start, no matter what happens. That is turning towards life, surrender.

And finally, I would like to share a trick that I have, for example, before I start Satsang like today, or when I make a video, or when I write letters, when I answer emails. You know, I have as little idea as you do. I have no idea what I am doing here either. I can't do this here. If I had to know what I am doing here, then I couldn't give Satsang.

But before I start Satsang or before I start a video, I meditate, and I pray, and I say, "God, I have nothing to do with this. This is your job, so you take care of it. It's your business. I am here, I am at your disposal, do what you want with me, but this is your business here." And in this way, it is possible for me. I couldn't do it any other way. And the same goes for your job. The same goes for everything we do in life, for everything, for every little thing.

If I had to know what I was doing here, then I couldn't give Satsang. But before I start Satsang or a video, I meditate and I pray: "God, I have nothing to do with this. This is your job, so you take care of it. I am at your disposal, but this is your business here."

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And you can do that very specifically. What I am saying here is not just some slogans, but these are the things that I do very concretely in every little thing in my life. In your situation... you think your company is going bankrupt now: "Okay, God. If that's what you want, okay, then that's how it should happen, I am in, I'll take care of everything as best I can. Maybe you can think of something else, then I'd be in too – your call.

Show me what you want me to do. Show me what to do now. I am ready for anything." Really very concrete, very practical. I said earlier in the answer to Linus with the fear he has about whether he should do something or not... Then I said the same thing: "God, if you don't stop this now, then I will do it. That's your business now. I have nothing to do with it. You gave me the energy for it, so I'll do it. If it's wrong, then it's your fault."

And that takes the pressure off me, and then, life flows and only good things happen. That is my very personal experience, which I have had time and time again – even in hopeless situations, by the way. I told this once a few months ago, also in Satsang. I was also once in a hopeless situation where I thought, for God's sake, what is going to happen to this life? I was completely desperate. I was completely desperate. I didn't know what to do. I prayed. I said, "God, I don't know how this is going to work. I have no idea. I need a miracle here."

Then I said: "God, you gave me the energy for this, so I'll do it. If it's wrong, then it's your fault." And that relieves me, and then, life flows and only good things happen. That is my very personal experience – even in hopeless situations, by the way.

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I just prayed, out of desperation, you know. This letting go didn't come because I was wise, but simply because I didn't know what to do anymore.

And that's what your life is for. Your life brings you to... We had this beautiful question earlier, "What is life about?" Life is about recognizing who you really are. And you let go, you let go of this life, and you turn to what it's really about, and you discover that by surrendering; by... Jesus said it so beautifully: "Lord, your will be done". And life, the way your life is going, brings you to the very point where you are forced to learn this. As modern, educated people, we would never surrender.

Jesus said: "Lord, your will be done". And life brings you to the point where you are forced to learn this. We would never surrender as modern, educated people. No one in their right mind surrenders, even though that's the only thing this life is about. But then, life helps you.

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We believe we can do it ourselves and that we should be able to do it ourselves. No one in their right mind surrenders, even though that's the only thing this life is about. But then, life helps you. Life brings you more and more, more and more, into situations where you realize: "I can't do anything here. I am powerless. I am at the end of my wisdom." And then, we learn this surrender, this letting go. Then, we start to let life happen, and then, we join in, and then, everything changes. You will experience it.

Life brings you more and more into situations where you realize: "I can't do anything here. I am powerless. I am at the end of my wisdom." And then we learn this surrender, this letting go. Then, we start to let life happen, and then, we join in, and then, everything changes. You will experience it.

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I am just the water pipe

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[Simone:] John has a quick question about this. "So, God works in you, or through you? Thank you very much."

[Dhyan Mikael:] Swamiji described it like this: you go to the bathroom in the morning and brush your teeth, and you turn on the faucet, and out comes water. you are not interested in the faucet or the water pipe – you are interested in what comes out of the water pipe. And that's how I feel in Satsang, or in the videos. I don't know what's happening here. I have no idea. I am just the water pipe.

You go into the bathroom in the morning and turn on the faucet, and water comes out. you are not interested in the faucet or the water pipe – you are interested in what comes out of the water pipe. And that's how I feel too. I don't know what's happening here. I am just the water pipe.

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Isn't the soul always whole?

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[Simone:] I have four more questions, Mikael.

[Dhyan Mikael:] Okay. I'll have to be a bit briefer, I think.

[Simone:] LadyKey.

[Dhyan Mikael:] Hello LadyKey.

[Simone:] "Dear Mikael, you often talk about the soul. Isn't the soul always whole? Can one retrieve soul parts that have been split off and return soul parts that have been retained? Thank you."

[Dhyan Mikael:] Thank you for your beautiful question. So, it's like this with the soul... The soul is not just a thing that lies around next to many other things.

The soul is also not something you can take and then add something to it or take something away.

None of that works.

The word 'soul' has a very practical meaning. Perhaps you know it from ropes. If you have a steel rope... Every steel rope has a soul. These are the innermost wires of the rope. This is the soul of the rope – the innermost part. That's the engineering meaning of the word. I am an engineer... Soul means "the innermost".

And applied to us humans, it means: the soul is that which dwells in what we see and experience here. And what we see and experience here is not you. You think it is you, but it is not. And the soul is what inhabits this body, this thinking, feeling, acting body. And that which you really are, that is this soul. But you know nothing about it.

Soul means "the innermost" – that which dwells in what we see and experience here. What we see and experience here is not you. You think it's you, but it's not. The soul is what inhabits this body. And what you are in reality is this soul. But you don't know anything about it.

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And you can't do anything with this soul. It is not a thing that you can take into your hands. It's you, without you knowing it. The only thing you can do is learn some trick that will help you to experience who you really are. Once you realize that, then there's no more question of removing or adding or any of that. You discover, you experience more and more: "Ah, this is me.

You can't do anything with this soul. It is not a thing that you can take into your hands. It is you without knowing it. The only thing you can do is learn a trick that will help you experience who you really are. Once you realize that, then there's no more question of removing or adding.

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This is me." And the more you experience this, the more, in a completely natural, self-evident way, you get and experience a distance to what we normally take so seriously and so important: this body and this world and everything that happens there. The more you get an idea of who you really are, the less important the rest becomes.

You experience more and more: "Ah, this is me", and the more you experience this, the more you experience a distance from what we normally take so seriously and so important: this body and this world and everything that happens there. The more you get a sense of who you really are, the less important the rest becomes.

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And that's an interesting thing. That's the exciting thing about this spiritual path, because you are basically setting out on a path to something you can't see or feel.

Somehow you have energy for it. Somehow you know: this is the way. Somehow you know: this is the right way, even if what Mikael or someone else says sounds totally crazy. You set off towards something you can't explain, something you can't even begin to perceive.

And very, very, very slowly you realize more and more, that you are that which you have no idea about. It's hard to put into words what it's like. You just have to experience it for yourself. But you are right: the soul is whole. You are always whole, but knowing this does you no good as long as you think you are this body and this earthly life and the thoughts and the desires and your worries.

That is the exciting thing about this spiritual path, because you are basically setting out on the path to something that you can neither see nor feel, neither explain nor even begin to perceive. And very, very, very slowly, you realize more and more that you are that which you have no idea about.

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And the trick is... I wanted to be brief. I failed at it again. The trick is to embark on this journey of discovery while you are alive, while you are living in the body. You live as a human being, as a thinking, feeling, acting human being, and yet, at the same time, you learn that I am not that. That's the exciting thing about this game, this journey of discovery that we have here.

The trick is to embark on this journey of discovery while living in the body. You live as a thinking, feeling, acting human being, and yet, at the same time, you learn that I am not that. That's the exciting thing about this game, this journey of discovery.

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Thank you for your question.

Jesus was a turning point in time

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[Simone:] Mister Blue asks: "Jesus was certainly a spiritual seeker or an enlightened one. Did Jesus himself have a Satori or Samadhi or enlightenment experience?"

[Dhyan Mikael:] Thank you for your question. What was the name? I didn't quite get it.

[Simone:] Mister Blue.

[Dhyan Mikael:] Mister Blue... great name.

So, Jesus was such a caliber of a Guru, he had... You know, an enlightenment experience is easy. Of course, Jesus had an enlightenment experience, otherwise he wouldn't have been where he... He lived in Heaven. He didn't just have an enlightenment experience, he then learned to live there.

An enlightenment experience is simply a first insight into what your true nature is. Many people have that. But then, learning to live that way, despite the daily distractions and temptations, despite the world and people and your own thoughts, that's an entirely different story. Only very few walk that path, and Jesus walked it.

An enlightenment experience is simply a first insight into what your true nature is. Many people have that. But then learning to live that way, despite the daily distractions and temptations, despite the world and people and your own thoughts, that's a different story. Only very few walk that path, and Jesus walked it.

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You can see that from the incredible energy that emanated from him. This energy is what people could feel.

I mean, I don't know if he had a Satori experience. I am sure. He lived like that. There's no question in my mind about this at all.

Jesus was a turning point in time. He was a man who brought the then completely unheard-of knowledge that God is not outside, but inside, into the world, to ordinary people. This knowledge is ancient, it had been around for thousands of years before that, but it was secret knowledge held by sages in the Himalayas or elsewhere. He was a giant. He changed the world because he had this knowledge... He had such power, such clarity, he had such infinite energy that he brought this knowledge out into the world for the first time. The world resented him, of course, but he was capable of it.

Jesus was a turning point in time. He brought the then unheard-of knowledge that God is not outside, but inside, into the world, to ordinary people. This knowledge is ancient, but he had such power and clarity that he carried this knowledge out into the world for the first time. The world resented him, of course, but he was able to do that.

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Yes.

Thank you. I love talking about Jesus. Maybe we can manage two more questions. Let's see.

[Simone:] Hiranyakashipu has a question. "Hi Mikael, can you say something about guilt and forgiveness? What is your perspective?"

[Dhyan Mikael:] Thank you for your question. That's a great question. I don't know if I can get through it now.

I am afraid not... I'd like to see what the next question is. Maybe I can say something about that one. But I don't want to answer the question so quickly now. I think I need a bit more time for that. You can either write to me... Write me an email, and then I'll answer in a video or in the next Satsang. I would be very happy. Sorry, I don't want Devasetu to go overtime because of me.

[Simone:] I'll read out the last question right away. I would like to briefly read out feedback from Tom and Linus. "Thank you for your answer, Mikael, it's very helpful." This is from Tom, Thomas. "It's very helpful. I am looking forward to my next conversation where I can practise self-awareness." And Linus: "Thank you. Do it wrong – I just needed to hear that again. Here's to cheerful failure!"

[Dhyan Mikael:] Yes, very nice. Yes, you understood me. I am glad you did.

How to bring silence into everyday life?

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[Simone:] Maik writes: "I had some profound experiences during meditation of incredible stillness and bliss. Can you tell me how I can transport the silence more into my everyday life?"

[Dhyan Mikael:] Oh, thank you, Maik. Thank you for the lovely question. Don't worry about it at all, and forget the experience you had in meditation. If you remember it and then try to take these experiences with you into life, then you are actually in the mind. That's quite funny. But what you'll then notice is that you suddenly remember it sometimes in your everyday life.

you are doing something, maybe you are a bit hectic, and suddenly you realize: "Oh, ah, I could handle it differently now" – but at that moment, you are already different. Then, your energy, your meditative energy, has caught up with you in everyday life. This is wonderful, and it happens more and more, more and more. So, trust that it will happen by itself. Meditate regularly every morning, but don't think about it. Don't try to remember it.

You do something a little hectic, and suddenly you realize: "I could handle this differently now" – but at that moment, you are already different. Then, your meditative energy has caught up with you in everyday life. Trust that this will happen of its own accord. Meditate, but don't think about it.

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It's one of those things with consciousness. Very quickly you develop a kind of pseudo-consciousness, which is actually just thoughts. That's why my recommendation is not to give it much thought. You can count on it: if you meditate every morning, it will gradually spread further and further. And when it has caught up with you during the day... you are doing the dishes, and suddenly you realize, "but you are a bit hectic, you could actually do it much more calmly and much more meditatively"... At that moment, you've already become more meditative again.

And then, you can enjoy it; then, you can allow that to happen. Then, you can realize: "Ah, I am in a hurry right now, but I don't care about that now. I'd much rather be in this depth right now and do the dishes comfortably and with joy." Then, you can give it your attention, so to speak. That's how I experience it. It happens by itself, more and more, more and more. Thank you for that lovely question at the end.

It's one of those things with consciousness. Very quickly you develop a kind of pseudo-consciousness, which is actually just thoughts. That's why my recommendation is not to worry about it. You can count on it: if you meditate every morning, it will gradually spread further and further.

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Support me if it gives you joy

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Yes, and before I close, thank you to all of you once again. I am so happy to be in Satsang with you. It really is a privilege and a great joy for me. And that is always amazing. I experienced this in the Satsangs of my spiritual Master, with whom I traveled for twenty years. Sometimes, I had a cold or was really ill, but when it came to Satsang, the energy was there. It was just there, and I experience that now too. This has such beauty and such energy, and that is such a gift for me.

And I thank you for being here. And I would like to end by mentioning... First of all, I want to thank Devasetu and Here-Now-TV for letting us do this. Thank you Devasetu for making this possible and thank you for your incredible work. I would like to remind you that Here-Now-TV is happy to receive donations – because the whole thing has to be paid for. It makes for an incredible amount of work. And the same goes for me. Everything I do here online is free. My Satsangs are free, my videos are free.

But it's a lot of work and takes a lot of energy, a lot of time and also money. And I am really happy about every person who wants to support me. If it gives you joy, then please support me. You can find all the information on the Donate page on my website. And last but not least, there are now – brand new – two retreats with me next year. This came about quite spontaneously at the beginning of October, when I was in Austria for the Non-Duality Days organized by Here-Now-TV at a wonderful retreat location.

And next year, I will be able to give two retreats there, one at the end of May and one at the beginning of December. I am really looking forward to it. It will be a wonderful time. And if you feel like it, if you feel the energy for it, I look forward to seeing you there. You can of course also find the information on my website. Thank you for being here. Thank you for Satsang.

I love you.